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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:08 pm 
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hmmm I think that its like Kays comics like how the Alpha dies and the name...(lol on gaia and on KO im Ikari (very strange hmm? but i used the name to before the comic was out) but what does Ikari meen? I just like the name! But ill stick with RedPaw)


I don't know, I made it up.

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lol I made it up to

:evil: ITS MINE!!!!!

lol Just kidding! :D

but a lot of people use simmaler names and such but sometimes you dont know what name (or in this case plot) have been used.


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Rainbow_Wolf wrote:
lol I made it up to

:evil: ITS MINE!!!!!

lol Just kidding! :D

but a lot of people use simmaler names and such but sometimes you dont know what name (or in this case plot) have been used.


Ok, here's the plot:

A war between two packs. Kay's war plot is about the wolves VS the Sabers. The alpha dies, and his daughter takes the alpha rank, but she is weak and gets pulled to the enemy pack. You don't see that in Kay's comics. Swiftspeed joins the pack and two years later she is ranked to Beta rank by the pack's current alpha; Monica's (the alpha's daughter) brother. You can't see that in Kay's comics either. Swiftspeed tries to get Monica back, but accidentaly kills her by her rage. *searches on Kay's comics* ...no!

She is expulsed from her pack and she loses the Beta wolf rank. Swiftspeed, ashamed and sad, goes and makes a new pack: the Ikari Wolves, which is located at the very center of the Ikari land. Where is that in Kay's comics?

More if anyone wants.

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sorry I hope i did not hurt your feelings....(im not being sarcastic)

but yes I would like more....sorry again if i did hurt your feeling though..... whimper.gif


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sorry I hope i did not hurt your feelings....(im not being sarcastic)

but yes I would like more....sorry again if i did hurt your feeling though..... whimper.gif


Is OK. :) *hugs*

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ok good *hugs back* I dont like to hurt peoples feelings and well... you know. but..... :afro:


lol cant wait untill you make more!

Graphics: 10/10
Plot:9/10
Overall:10000000000000000000000000/10


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ok good *hugs back* I dont like to hurt peoples feelings and well... you know. but..... :afro:


lol cant wait untill you make more!

Graphics: 10/10
Plot:9/10
Overall:10000000000000000000000000/10


lol xD Thanks.

More tomorrow. ;)

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YAY!!!!! Cant wait *hops into time machine and fastforwards till its tomarrow


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YAY!!!!! Cant wait *hops into time machine and fastforwards till its tomarrow



*hops with you*

Ahem, back on topic, please. :)

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ok sorry!

but i really like the comic


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ok sorry!

but i really like the comic



Thanks. Love.gif wetwolf4.gif

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What things seem TOO similar to Kay's comics?


I don't want to offend you, but I myself am seeing a large Swiftkill (the character, not the plot) influence. If you don't mind, I'll go ahead an point out why I think people are seeing similarities.

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(Swiftkill image from http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/20496855/?qo=59&q=by%3Akayfedewa&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps, copyright Kay of course. The above image is being used for comparison only.)

Looking at these two, I think it's mainly the facial markings, headfur (spikes on the top of the head), and style that make people think that Swiftspeed's design was influenced by Swiftkill (again, no offense intended, but I have to agree). In addition, war paint/tattoos are also a common thing with people working on their own wolf comic who are taking heavy influence from Kay's work (minus characters created for RP on her board), so that helps to further make people suspicious of your character's design. Also, I know you've said that you thought up the name a long time ago, and the name by itself without the design added is perfectly fine, but with the visual closeness of these two, Swiftspeed compared to Swiftkill make it appear that you have used Kay's character as a base for your design.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with this in terms of copyright and other legal terms, so it all comes down to common courtesy. Honestly, I think that you should ask Kay about the design. Worst case scenario, an artist will say "no" and leave it at that when you ask about such a thing. Others are okay with it so long as you credit them. However, all of them get agitated when you simply don't ask, even if they don't show it. So, maybe drop Kay a line and ask permission:)?

All in all, I would like to add that having read your plot, your comic sounds very awesome! Just tweak the character design here a bit, and you should be all set to go^^.

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I think that its like Kays comics like how the Alpha dies and the name

I do agree with the name thing (and again, only because of the design similarities), but as for the whole alpha dying subject, that is a very common thing to do in movies/stories/comic outside of The BBA and DA, and not just in wolf-related material. Heck, look at the Lion King! While it might seem overdone, it is used because, as with real life creatures looking to leaders for survival, the death of an alpha throws everything out of whack for a pack, therefore causing chaos and a reason for war, etc. This can even be seen in everyday conflicts and wars *cough*Dubbuya!*cough*.

Hopefully I made sense there...

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Uh...nobody needs to explain ANYTHING when they say that this is yet another knock-off of Kay Fedewa's comic :roll: You yourself know how similar it is. Kay is getting her comic published, you know. So anything here that is yours will be considered more than theft by the time it is published. There's already like 5 other comics like hers, I have no idea why you wanna add to the list. You're only making yourself look foolish with the rest of them.


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So anything here that is yours will be considered more than theft by the time it is published.


Actually, I don't think legal action could be taken, published or not, as the creator of the character in question is not claiming said character to be Swiftkill of the BBA. It's like those shirts you see being sold in hole-in-the-wall shops with independently-redrawn Mickey Mouse faces on them...onlookers would know that the character is based on Mickey Mouse, but so long as the shopkeeper claims the character on the shirt to be someone else (i.e. "Larry Mouse"), they cannot be sued (not saying Katja is or should be accused of doing such a thing...there is no solid evidence to claim character/story theft in this case, there is only suspicion).

As for those Larry Mouse shirts...let's just agree that the U.S. justice system is odd.

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But it is still not right. I have notified Kay and I will let HER deal with this.

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