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Yes, but without a doubt, there is a reason behind it. Pure dogs have attacked people - but for what reason? They've obviously been driven to aggression by previous owners, if not, they were provoked.

No human can call a wolf a 'wild killer'. No human. Because we humans are the greatest killers on Earth. It's obvious.

...so - this means that - because we're killers - we should deny the fact that wolves are killers as well?

...very reasonable logic.

We are much worse killers than wolves. Think of how many animals we kill each year for food. I'm sure a single wolf kills a lot less.

The wolf is a predator.

You don't need to roll your eyes at me.

...as is homo sapiens.

That wolves are killers is an undeniable fact, same as a wolf can be dangerous to humans to some extent. There's absolutely no reason to ignore that fact, well, actually it would be stupid to ignore it - as such thinking could get you and the wolf into dangerous and unneeded conflicts.

If I'd think of our tigers like cute lil' kitties that don't ever do something we define as "bad", you could be sure that I wouldn't be among the living anymore today.

The question is: does the purpose (which any animal has in an ecosystem) make the animal "bad"? It's all about that. If you say an animal that's designed to "kill" is "bad", then you're on the wrong path. But not by stating a natural fact.

I do NOT think wolves aren't killers. I beleive they are. They need to be to survive but, we on the other hand kill for fashion. I think that is such a waste.

You said----)If I'd think of our tigers like cute lil' kitties that don't ever do something we define as "bad", you could be sure that I wouldn't be among the living anymore today.

Indeed, they are not cute kitties. I also don't think that wolves are little cute puppies either. I know they are wild and aren't tame. Would I be afraid to approach one? No, I wouldn't because I know how to speek wolf, using body language(postures). I've researched it and studied their body communications.

As I said wolves are more reponsible than us the first thing they would do is probably approach with cation rather than what my school voted saying 'They'd kill you first chance they get.' they wouldn't they take in the children stupid people abandoned

Oh, we do even worse: we kill for fun and hobby. Yet that doesn't stand for all people - our primary need is meat, and that's what we primarily kill millions of animals for each day


Oh - yes... and what does allow you to do so? It's the knowledge about their desires, needs and purpose of existence. Hence... you have to know that they are predators... you have to know that, except for "danger", they have no reason not to consider humans being prey... and you have to know the consequence "fear of mankind" has to their defensive behavior.

My point is: only those who KNOW and RESPECT what a predator has to act like, only those will be able to communicate and interact with them.

I mean... yes. Pantherines are dangerous animals. But some of them are my best friends, actually. They respect me, and I respect them. And yes... in some of them I trust more than in trusted humans... but it doesn't change the fact what they are - what capabilities they have - and what accidents can happen if someone behaves wrong.

Wolves kill since meat is a required part of their diet. They're carnivores. But a wolf wouldn't kill for the fun nor challenge of it. We humans, we hunt - people hunt animals as a hobby. Blood sports. Hunting with hounds and fishing are just a few examples.

I can't imagine wolves ganging up together to see who can catch the fattest deer.

However, I WOULD NOT just randomly approach a wolf in the wild. You may think that you know all about wolves but, the question is, do wolves know all about you?

Wolves aren't killers of humans. They mostly eat moose, deer, and other mammals. They rarely attack humans.

So, killing other animals is "right" and killing humans is "bad"? Hence, if you kill a deer... you aren't a killer?

And - man-eating among wolves is by far better documented than most people think. It's, of course, not their usual behavior - but if the needed circumstances are given, they can perfectly learn to predate on people.

How else are Wolves suppose to survive!? They can't become vegetarians.
Humans hunt deer because their population is out of control. Wolves need to eat. I don't hunt, but Wolves need to hunt other animals cause it's their instincts and its the Cirlce Of Life, It's how the food chain works, so if you can't deel with it then that's your problem.

Wolves that have killed humans have obviously been provoked. I doubt very much that a wolf would wander into a human camp purposefully set out to kill a member of the camp.

A deer, caribou, moose or whatever is part of a wolf's diet therefore, this cannot be classed as 'bad'. A human is not part of their diet.

Same as I need to get my proteines from somewhere too.


Indeed, due to our own rape on nature, we're forced to take the role of other predators today. Yet, it's wrong that we hunt deer only because of that reason. Deer serves us as food as well.


As do humans.


Indeed - but we're part of the "Circle of Life" as well...


I can perfectly deal with it - I study animalia, work with and protect animals that occupy the top of the food chain. Interestingly, I'm aware that humans occupy the very top of it.


I'm not talking about wolves simply "killing" humans. Such things happen often, as most people don't know how to act towards predatory animals. I'm talking about learned, and therefore intentionally performed predation on people. Almost any predator is known for doing that, most famously the cats, of course, as they've physical attributes that easily allow them performing such action, a bit less famously in representants of the dog-likes... but they do it. It's all a matter of circumstances. Humans are relatively easy to tackle, if they're unarmed, way easier to tackle than deer or elks. In old age or infirmity it's natural for predators to switch to easier and less risky prey, and if they get often in contact with humans, they can make occasional experiences on how easy it actually is with them. Once learned and adapted in a family, a true outbreak of man-eating can occur in certain areas. With wolves it's simply the way that they get often enough experiences of how dangerous mankind is - it's their fear that avoids them getting in contact with us, so that they hardly ever learn something about our daytime rythms, behavior and social structure.


Oh, there you're wrong. USUALLY they hunt such game, yes. The advantage of these animals is that they're usually widely spread and exist in large populations. But any active predator, hence - not those who primarily scavenge, have to go through bottlenecks, when their prefered prey species get scarce. In such a case they can't be choosy, and have to adapt their hunting skills to new species... that clearly doesn't exclude humans from their prey range.


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Listen, people - it's not my intention to draw a "bad" picture of wolves here, or that I'd want to attack you with my comments. I'm simply stating facts.

Wolves need to be "killers", for their own survival. Yet that doesn't make them bad creatures. They have their social and lovely sides, that's true... but you should never forget that they are predators... and there's absolutely no natural reason why a wolf shouldn't consider humans being their prey.

We're, although we perform a cruel rape of natural environments and their inhabitants, part of the global ecosystem - same as all other species (animals, plants, funghi...)... and being part of that ecosystem means to eat or being eaten... that's a natural law. And that can't decide about being good or bad. Yet we need to be aware of that law - as that law is what all species follow.

Well I can't be bothered to respond. I know my opinion, if people have others then so be it. I don't plan to 'fight' for what I think is right.

Starsky, I totally agree with you on this one. Wolves need to eat and they would, wonder towards humans on purpose. Humans need to hunt deer cause it's that season and their population is too high. I think Kovu is wrong about this one.