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should animals be called people?
yes 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
dunno 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
no 65%  65%  [ 15 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:36 pm 
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Actually, folks, people ARE animals. Just a different class of animal. Sentient, and generally far more intelligent (inasmuch as we can measure intelligence in other species). But homo sapiens is simply an evolved member of the family of great apes. Thus, an ANIMAL.

Again - as I've posted above: it's wrong to call "humans" "animals". We indeed are a member of "animalia", but define "animal" as something different.

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Actually, folks, people ARE animals. Just a different class of animal. Sentient, and generally far more intelligent (inasmuch as we can measure intelligence in other species). But homo sapiens is simply an evolved member of the family of great apes. Thus, an ANIMAL.

Again - as I've posted above: it's wrong to call "humans" "animals". We indeed are a member of "animalia", but define "animal" as something different.

I disagree. But it's a matter of perspective. No matter what WE call ourselves, the facts don't change. We are of an order of animalia. We belong TO that order. The fact that we don't (or don't like to) call ourselves "animals" doesn't change the fact that we really are. We evolved from simpler and lower forms. We are indirectly related to them, and there are certain dormant genetic traits still present in our DNA which are associated with the lower and simpler forms.

Besides, I tend to think that the reason humans don't like to be referred to as "animals" is because, in a certain context, it has a negative connotation.


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Well, that's if you want to look at it scientifically.


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I disagree. But it's a matter of perspective. No matter what WE call ourselves, the facts don't change. We are of an order of animalia. We belong TO that order. The fact that we don't (or don't like to) call ourselves "animals" doesn't change the fact that we really are. We evolved from simpler and lower forms. We are indirectly related to them, and there are certain dormant genetic traits still present in our DNA which are associated with the lower and simpler forms.

Yeah, we belong to that order. But that's no reason to abandon the original meaning of the word "animal"...

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Besides, I tend to think that the reason humans don't like to be referred to as "animals" is because, in a certain context, it has a negative connotation.

I don't know... I mean - primarily it's because humans like to have an actual purpose that defines their existence. Humans simply don't like the idea that their existence is founded on accidents.

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Yes thats also why I consider them humans because they're always there for you my dog max was my best friend but he passed away from a lyme desies at age 2

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YES!THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY!THANK YOU MEEKO!

Then your poll should have said:

"should people be called animals?"


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I don't think we should call animals people. People is a term reserved for Homo Sapiens in the same way dog is for canids. We do not call monkeys cats, nor do we call elephants tigers, or horses lions. No, its best not to mix up species by giving them interchangeable names, or we would loose track of things. However, keep in mind that humans are a type of animal.


I'm with you

We shouldn't call Animals 'Humans'! We call Humans 'Animals'! Calling Animals Humans is plain weird...for, as Finnish Fox pointed out, 'Human' is the term for 'Homo Sapiens' aka 'People' :wink: xD

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I don't think we should call animals people. People is a term reserved for Homo Sapiens in the same way dog is for canids. We do not call monkeys cats, nor do we call elephants tigers, or horses lions. No, its best not to mix up species by giving them interchangeable names, or we would loose track of things. However, keep in mind that humans are a type of animal.


I'm with you

We shouldn't call Animals 'Humans'! We call Humans 'Animals'! Calling Animals Humans is plain weird...for, as Finnish Fox pointed out, 'Human' is the term for 'Homo Sapiens' aka 'People' :wink: xD

No...but we do call humans "hominids". And "hominids" (all the great apes) ARE animals. And we are a form of great ape...a hominid. An ANIMAL. Finnish Fox is partially wrong. Sure, we DON'T call monkeys "cats", nor elephants "tigers", nor horses "lions". But we DO call them all "animals". And no one was suggesting that we call humans "fish" either. The question was whether or not they can be referred to as "animals". Humans arose from earlier ANIMAL forms. Therefore, logic and science dictate that we ARE animals.


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BaltoSeppala wrote:
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Finnish Fox wrote:
I don't think we should call animals people. People is a term reserved for Homo Sapiens in the same way dog is for canids. We do not call monkeys cats, nor do we call elephants tigers, or horses lions. No, its best not to mix up species by giving them interchangeable names, or we would loose track of things. However, keep in mind that humans are a type of animal.


I'm with you

We shouldn't call Animals 'Humans'! We call Humans 'Animals'! Calling Animals Humans is plain weird...for, as Finnish Fox pointed out, 'Human' is the term for 'Homo Sapiens' aka 'People' :wink: xD

No...but we do call humans "hominids". And "hominids" (all the great apes) ARE animals. And we are a form of great ape...a hominid. An ANIMAL. Finnish Fox is partially wrong. Sure, we DON'T call monkeys "cats", nor elephants "tigers", nor horses "lions". But we DO call them all "animals". And no one was suggesting that we call humans "fish" either. The question was whether or not they can be referred to as "animals". Humans arose from earlier ANIMAL forms. Therefore, logic and science dictate that we ARE animals.


Aye, I know we're all animals! :wink: I'm jsut saying that Animals aren't Humans!!
After all, if we aren't animals, then what are we? Plants??? :lol:

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It's my guess, based on her subsequent statement (which I responded to) that the original poster meant it the other way around from how she stated it.


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Yes, sep! We are all animals. We are all the same just different species. :wink:

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