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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:04 pm |
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Well, I'm a Kodi+Kirby fan. But, I still see where you are comming from. I personnally don't care what sex someone is, as long as they love each other. I do understand you have your opinion and your right to speak of your mind. If you have a problem with the fics, it's fine with me, but, I do hope you enjoy some of them. Having a sense of relegion is perfectly fine too, especially the way you posted it, you clearly stated you did NOT want to start a flame. For that I commend you.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:10 pm |
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x_X_Emily_X_x wrote: Well, I'm a Kodi+Kirby fan. But, I still see where you are comming from. I personnally don't care what sex someone is, as long as they love each other. I do understand you have your opinion and your right to speak of your mind. If you have a problem with the fics, it's fine with me, but, I do hope you enjoy some of them. Having a sense of relegion is perfectly fine too, especially the way you posted it, you clearly stated you did NOT want to start a flame. For that I commend you.
More importantly, I have at least one friend here who has already told me he is gay. I won't say who, because it's not my job to reveal that without his okay. But knowing that makes me think no less of him as a friend. He's still a good dude in my book...and if you want to consider my religious point of view, MY faith (and believe it or not, I am a Roman Catholic) teaches me, the way I interpret my faith, not to condemn him...or any other person with a lifestyle choice I don't morally condone...just because of that. He's far more than JUST a gay person. He's a human being too. And a friend.
It's the lifestyle I have an issue with, and also that so many people are writing this stuff HERE, and that there's so much OF it. And all because one or two people wrote something (that, again, I don't believe should have been here). AND that so many people who defend that kind of writing, or the "right" to write it, are so venomous to those who don't like it. And make ***** accusations about them which are often wrong. It's all very hurtful. And yet, apparently, only those who don't like that kind of fan fiction material can be hateful. The writers (and fans of that kind of writing) "are being unfairly maligned". 
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Ecliptica
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:11 pm |
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I Agree with you SB, but one of the reasions why people started those Homo and other fanfics are because it was something diffrent for once, they needed to do something new, because alot of the fanfics were almost the same till people did the homo ones and it got more attention for the huge slice of being diffrent and something new to fill your imagination with and im sure they did not do it to hurt anyone or harm the characters story and legend, all they wanted was to do something diffrent that no one else did, they did not do it to harm, so take to heart and maybe stand up and talk to those people personaly and ask why they are doing that and ask if they could stop? maybe they will, you never know till you try^^
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Swords of the Wolves
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:15 pm |
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I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have.
Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:16 pm |
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Ecliptica wrote: ...so take to heart and maybe stand up and talk to those people personaly and ask why they are doing that and ask if they could stop? maybe they will, you never know till you try^^
That's an admirable suggestion, Clippy. But it's unlikely to work. Most of the ones who have written this stuff have one or both of the following attitudes:
1. "I'll write whatever I FREAKIN' please, and if you don't like it, tough. Don't READ it."
2. (as you said) they're looking for attention, and to stand out as writers. That's a piss-poor reason, in my book, to write homosexual, bisexual, incestual, violent, or profanity-laden fan fictions using innocent, decent, good-natured characters like those in the Balto cartoons, which were designed for a CHILD audience.
Thus, they're not exactly open to differing points of view. Some of them can be quite acerbic.
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Sushi Roll
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:19 pm |
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Swords of the Wolves wrote: Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Exactly what I was aiming to say. Took the words right out of my mouth! 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:22 pm |
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Swords of the Wolves wrote: I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine.
You're misunderstanding me, Swords. I have never said that people CAN'T do these things here. I said that I believe it is WRONG that they are allowed to post these things here. Nor did I ever condemn any gay or bi person. I said that I can't continue to turn a blind eye to this, or serve as a moderator in a section where I have to put aside my morals to approve content which, to me, is deeply offensive.
Does that make it clear? You're doing exactly what I said so many people do when someone brings this up...you're presuming I'm condemning gay people. Or the writers. I'm not. Please get this right.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:24 pm |
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BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine. You're misunderstanding me, Swords. I have never said that people CAN'T do these things here. I said that I believe it is WRONG that they are allowed to post these things here. Nor did I ever condemn any gay or bi person. I said that I can't continue to turn a blind eye to this, or serve as a moderator in a section where I have to put aside my morals to approve content which, to me, is deeply offensive. Does that make it clear? You're doing exactly what I said so many people do when someone brings this up...you're presuming I'm condemning gay people. Or the writers. I'm not. Please get this right.
Yes, sir. I wasn't intending for it to sound that way, so I'll just shut it. I wasn't saying that you were condemming those people, I just was stating my own personal opinion.
I've been having a bad day, so sorry if I sound all... whatever the word is...
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:26 pm |
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Swords of the Wolves wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine. You're misunderstanding me, Swords. I have never said that people CAN'T do these things here. I said that I believe it is WRONG that they are allowed to post these things here. Nor did I ever condemn any gay or bi person. I said that I can't continue to turn a blind eye to this, or serve as a moderator in a section where I have to put aside my morals to approve content which, to me, is deeply offensive. Does that make it clear? You're doing exactly what I said so many people do when someone brings this up...you're presuming I'm condemning gay people. Or the writers. I'm not. Please get this right. Yes, sir. I wasn't intending for it to sound that way, so I'll just shut it.
I wasn't asking for that. But, if you prefer to, then okay. I was simply trying to avoid another blow-up (by anyone) as the result of a misunderstanding.
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Ecliptica
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:26 pm |
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BaltoSeppala wrote: Ecliptica wrote: ...so take to heart and maybe stand up and talk to those people personaly and ask why they are doing that and ask if they could stop? maybe they will, you never know till you try^^ That's an admirable suggestion, Clippy. But it's unlikely to work. Most of the ones who have written this stuff have one or both of the following attitudes: 1. "I'll write whatever I FREAKIN' please, and if you don't like it, tough. Don't READ it." 2. (as you said) they're looking for attention, and to stand out as writers. That's a piss-poor reason, in my book, to write homosexual, bisexual, incestual, violent, or profanity-laden fan fictions using innocent, decent, good-natured characters like those in the Balto cartoons, which were designed for a CHILD audience.
I hate those touch sounding writers too, and it goes to show they don't have any respect for any of the legend and they they would put popularity first before something truely beautful and true of heart.... It saddenss me too see that happend, Balto's name is being tarnished with slanderis filth, they can make homo fan fics, but they should be called something else and have nothing to do with balto, he's a hero and by making bo, gay fics about him is wrong, it's disrespectufll, and you really should put yourself in the others shoes fiurst before making something involving them so you know how they would feel and react to it, in this case putting you in the others paw prints sounds more of the correct way of saying it^^
Also put you place in one of the sick childrens place, do you think they would think making balto to be like this is respectfull for a hero? they'd probably say HELL NO!!,
Im not going agenced other people who are bi or gay, they should use there gay and bi fic somewhere else because this place is basicly the hero'
s heart and memoires for everyone to enjoy, love and charrish for ever, so take your bi and gay fics out of the hero and to where they belong^^
If I offended anyone im deeply sorry.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:28 pm |
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BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine. You're misunderstanding me, Swords. I have never said that people CAN'T do these things here. I said that I believe it is WRONG that they are allowed to post these things here. Nor did I ever condemn any gay or bi person. I said that I can't continue to turn a blind eye to this, or serve as a moderator in a section where I have to put aside my morals to approve content which, to me, is deeply offensive. Does that make it clear? You're doing exactly what I said so many people do when someone brings this up...you're presuming I'm condemning gay people. Or the writers. I'm not. Please get this right. Yes, sir. I wasn't intending for it to sound that way, so I'll just shut it. I wasn't asking for that. But, if you prefer to, then okay. I was simply trying to avoid another blow-up (by anyone) as the result of a misunderstanding.
Look, there are few topics that will make me completely lose it. This isn't one of them, so don't get worked up about it, please.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:32 pm |
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Swords of the Wolves wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Swords of the Wolves wrote: I am naturally neutral in most debates like this, to be perfectly honest. I will only say this:
Let people have what preferences they have. Let people have what their beliefs about them are.
Honestly, so long as there's nothing sexually graphic, I don't care. If they're just stories about two characters who just happen to be of the same gender who love each other, or happen to be brother and sister, don't go into graphic detail, and it's fine. You're misunderstanding me, Swords. I have never said that people CAN'T do these things here. I said that I believe it is WRONG that they are allowed to post these things here. Nor did I ever condemn any gay or bi person. I said that I can't continue to turn a blind eye to this, or serve as a moderator in a section where I have to put aside my morals to approve content which, to me, is deeply offensive. Does that make it clear? You're doing exactly what I said so many people do when someone brings this up...you're presuming I'm condemning gay people. Or the writers. I'm not. Please get this right. Yes, sir. I wasn't intending for it to sound that way, so I'll just shut it. I wasn't asking for that. But, if you prefer to, then okay. I was simply trying to avoid another blow-up (by anyone) as the result of a misunderstanding. Look, there are few topics that will make me completely lose it. This isn't one of them, so don't get worked up about it, please.
I won't. But I fully expect others might. And I really hope they DON'T. I didn't create this topic for that. This was sort of my preparation for my own swan song, as it were...a foreshadowing of things that may yet come to pass...for me...
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Ecliptica
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:47 pm |
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Lunawings wrote: Im aganst it because God clearly states the homosexuallity is a sin. A sin like any other, But still a sin. And there is just SO much of it now. It's almost impossible to avoid. The pictures, the siggys, the avatars. Oh yeah, the fanart and videos aswell. It wasn't as hard ignore when they where just fanfics, but now it's everywhere.
Ok I respect your opinion completely, but you are then calling me a sinner^^ and you know what, I am who I am and there is no better person to be then yourself, and if you or anyone hates me because im diffrent then so be it, all it shows is that you judge first and speak later, but I have everything that makes me human, I have a heart and a soul, and just because im diffrent doesn't mean I know right from wrong because I do, and this is completely wrong, he's a hero do not foul his name, you may be diffrent, but don't try and make the hero the same as you, his story is done but his book will be read and remembrd by all, Baltosource is basicly his home, his piller of triumpth agenced all odds to save those in need when he had a choise to ether F**k them and do what he wanted or do something heroic and save a town, he chose save the town, and that alone is exteamly insipiring, so leave the gay and bi fics somewhere else then here........
I am not sure of any poiints I prooved but can people have respect for other members who are getting hurt by there fics and stop when asked to? can they be considerate? can they? if you write those fan fics and someone asks you to stop, please be considerate and stop.........
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:50 pm |
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Lunawings wrote: Im aganst it because God clearly states the homosexuallity is a sin. A sin like any other, But still a sin. And there is just SO much of it now. It's almost impossible to avoid. The pictures, the siggys, the avatars. Oh yeah, the fanart and videos aswell. It wasn't as hard ignore when they where just fanfics, but now it's everywhere.
Well are we not getting off-topic, this is about seppala, not about homosexuals, its intretsing that everyone has turned their attention too this part of the dicussion, there is more too it, and that is your opinoin Lunawings, but I still think this is off-topic, and we should focus more on what seppala said.
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Ecliptica
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:52 pm |
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Roxas wrote: Lunawings wrote: Im aganst it because God clearly states the homosexuallity is a sin. A sin like any other, But still a sin. And there is just SO much of it now. It's almost impossible to avoid. The pictures, the siggys, the avatars. Oh yeah, the fanart and videos aswell. It wasn't as hard ignore when they where just fanfics, but now it's everywhere. Well are we not getting off-topic, this is about seppala, not about homosexuals, its intretsing that everyone has turned their attention too this part of the dicussion, there is more too it, and that is your opinoin Lunawings, but I still think this is off-topic, and we should focus more on what seppala said.
Opse sorry^^ im not sure if I went off topic or not so if I did then me sorry^^
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