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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:45 pm 
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That's where beta testing comes into play. :wink:


And that was a point I was trying to put across, it seems today everything is only for the money.

Don't fight for money, guy! Fight for the life! :?
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I fight for life in the long run, if a few animals are killed so that many more animals and humans live then I'm fine with that. I'll only dislike it if it seems more animals are dieing then the testing can help.


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Listen, I don't feel like fighting about this. I already said it, but I'll say it again, I'm sorry. This is a very emotional subject for me and I know that I should be more consiterit, but I'm not and there is nothing I can do if my emotions get the better of me (in which, they have) But don't humans have enough technology to find some other way to cure sicknesses?

White wolf, I'm sorry what I said to you (it was rude) but would you still be with animal labs if instaid of animals, they tested on people or criminales or something?


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The only thing is we cant teach a robot to react like a life form would react.

However if they did test on convicts that were sent to death I would be for it. To me if you have dont something that bad you lose your value as a person.

But in all honesty people are tested on after the animals are. It is very complex to find out new drugs to help us, as alot of bacteria change, the flu is ever changing and epidemics do break out and are very deadly.


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Like I said before, animal testing costs more lives than it saves. I don't care how good the doctors' intentions are (whether it be to help people or to just gain more money) animal labs are not as effective TODAY as they were ten years ago (give or take). While labs are busy testing animals for new medicine for new diseases, those animals are dying, along with the people waiting for them to come up with the medicine for a disease that may or may not even be curable OR develop into one that's far worse.


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Show me some proof that there is less accomplishment in research, and I may disregard your immature comment.

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*hesitates* White wolf, I hate to say it, but I think what your opinion of this is fair... however, cat is right. Animal labs kill many more animals then they save people. As our species advances, then we get into finding medicen of VERY complex desieses and if thoses complex desises are more then we think they are, then we could be killing animals for generations to come and not get any closer to finding a cure... :?


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The only thing is we cant teach a robot to react like a life form would react.

But lifes aren't created to kill for testing anything! Lif exist to live!

Why doesn't people test the danegrous medicine? Because they think they are more of value than all other cratures!


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Unfortunatly, Feido, thats exactally how they think. Humans think they are better then eny other species. Its unhuman and not fair and its stupid and ignorant and compleatly evil and dumb and spitful and merciless and.....*snarls* (shoot, I'm getting mad again :wangry: )


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(shoot, I'm getting mad again :wangry: )


You think?

Anyway, humans are more superior to animals. We practically created this world. If there was just animals it would just be plain stupid.

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Ok, first off, NONE of you know how the world is created. Everyone has different thoughts on it, but no one has the right to say "the world was created this way. Not THAT way"

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Anyway, humans are more superior to animals. We practically created this world. If there was just animals it would just be plain stupid.


Ok, at this point, you're being VERY unreasonable. I'm done arguing with you, you're not even trying to look at the other side.


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Science points to the World being created by a star exploding and creating our solar system, but that's not to say a Devine being helped it.

But now we have very different viral deseise to kill. And Virus' are not living and there as of now is no cure for any viral infection and that's one of the things they are working on. Also like I said we have to keep updated with all the Bacteria because they are always mutating into different strains of the same thing only they are totally new.


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