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All right some of you are missing the point. Animal testing is good, yes some of the animals do die, and yes there are a few crooked labs.

But you have to look past that into the greater good, with out it humans would be dieing faster, and animals would be dieing faster. Not really the wild ones but even that is up for debate, we do tag animals and check up on them.

To some of you an animal is worth more then a person, but to everyone else it's the opposite. We as humans have compassion for our own kind and animals witch makes it tough to have animal testing but we have to have it, it just has to many good things come from it.


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Hm...Well, if it's just on mice and rats, they're not overdoing it, and it's for medical purposes, then I'm okay with that. But testing on domestic animals with cigaretts etc., THAT I'm definetly NOT okay with. [color=red]How would you like it if someone just shoved a cigarette down your throat for no reason, and you couldn't do anything to stop them from doing it? It's cruel!
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Why do people hafta single out the rats and mice? :? People still dont get that sickness is population control and no matter what they do, there is not a cure for everything. And they're still trying to say there is by testing medicine on animals. Even if they do only test on rats and mice, that's still not doing much.


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And there's another thing: The most of the tests are not only for ,,invent'' new medicine. In the university the students have to do animal-tests but everyone knows what will happen. Because they do it only for learning. It is dispensable. So many animals are killed only because new people want to know for themselves what happens if...

And we have 2006, the most tests you can do by computertechnology but this is expensive and the peoplple love their money, the animals aren't imoprtant.

And the last thing is: The tested animal isn't at every time death. Often it has for still a long time agonies.


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And there's another thing: The most of the tests are not only for ,,invent'' new medicine. In the university the students have to do animal-tests but everyone knows what will happen. Because they do it only for learning. It is dispensable. So many animals are killed only because new people want to know for themselves what happens if...

And we have 2006, the most tests you can do by computertechnology but this is expensive and the peoplple love their money, the animals aren't imoprtant.

And the last thing is: The tested animal isn't at every time death. Often it has for still a long time agonies.


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Did enyone even read my post? Animal testing is leading to bad futures for everyone! (unlesss we find some way to extend our lives... the it will be worse!) But to us, animals are not equils, which is like a long time ago, when we though black people wern't real people. But as we can all see now, that was VERY wrong and what we did to them is nothing to be proud of. The same thing will happen to animals, only it will be worse becasue the human population will keep growing untill there is no way out of a horrible dirty world were everywhere you turn there is danger and hoplessness. Already, that is were we are hading and curing illnesses will only speed up the problem.


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I dont think some of you are getting this, with out animal testing you could get sick and die. Simple thing that happen to you could have killed you had we not tested on animals.

It's not only for Humans but animal testing also helps animals, it also helps animals, some of you have not head about this yet. You hear animal testing and think oh they're only killing animals for fun.

I dont know what more to say to make anyone understand that it helps us and if it didnt then why would we pay people to hurt animals.


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I dont think some of you are getting this, with out animal testing you could get sick and die.


But tell me: Why sould so much animals die and more people live?
Not the human is become extinct but many animals-species are going exterminated! (Of the human!)

And like so many members here said: The human is not only testing for medicine. They're testing also for only usless things like make-up, for showing to the students in the univerity ecc..


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But tell me: Why sould so much animals die and more people live?
Not the human is become extinct but many animals-species are going exterminated! (Of the human!)

And like so many members here said: The human is not only testing for medicine. They're testing also for only usless things like make-up, for showing to the students in the univerity ecc..
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They do that kind of stuff at univeritys to teach the people there.

And if you'r trying to say that humans are going to exterminate any animal I dont think we will, if you have not seen we've been looking at animal numbers and when we do find they are dropping fast we will take action weter it be stopping hunting or taking animals into captivity.

And it's human nature to value a person's life more then an animal's. A person can contribue more to humanity then a mouse or rat could.


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But tell me: Why sould so much animals die and more people live?
Not the human is become extinct but many animals-species are going exterminated! (Of the human!)

And like so many members here said: The human is not only testing for medicine. They're testing also for only usless things like make-up, for showing to the students in the univerity ecc..
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They do that kind of stuff at univeritys to teach the people there.



What happens if you do xyz with an animal is still tetsted for more than 100 times!! This is written in all teaching-books. But they do because the students have to see what happens with their own eyes! And this is more than silly! :?


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And if you'r trying to say that humans are going to exterminate any animal I dont think we will, if you have not seen we've been looking at animal numbers and when we do find they are dropping fast we will take action weter it be stopping hunting or taking animals into captivity.


Oh...action...yes action. And what's about the 100 or 200 species which die every day? Where's there the action? The action came to late! And why the people think they have to kill so much that REAL IMPORTANT actions are going to be more important? Why killing so much that we need this actions?

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And it's human nature to value a person's life more then an animal's. A person can contribue more to humanity then a mouse or rat could.


Yes, maybe you think so. But I do not.

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Just because I think that testing for medical reasons is okay it doesnt mean that I agree with doing testing for make up and stuff like that. I think that most people who say animal testing if done for medical reasons is ok, would not agree with testing done for cosmetics and other uneccesary stuff. And just because some one may agree with testing for medical reasons does not mean that they hate animals or that they want to exterminate a whole species.


But they stopped thinking. A normal thinking person thinks what could the animal feel now by doing this. But they ,,switched-off'' their brain and their conscience. So it works better by doing bad things like this. ;)

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