No prob! I just hate to see my favorite site fall apart over something stupid and pointless. There has to be away to handle the situation maturely and respectfully instead of doing idiotic things to try to stop it like arguing. Arguing will get you no where! It will just go back and forth! There has to be a reasonable solution we can all argee to. I strongly believe Balto brought us together on this site and that we're all family here. We shouldn't be causing pointless fights with each other.

Now I see. The only reason people are fighting to keep their sparkle dogs is because the rules ALLOW it. Half the people disagree and make really stupid/ugly sparkledogs to prove a point. (Like Cat did) And half agree with the rules and make a little nicer versions.

I know some people are going to hate me for saying this, and you can flame bate me all you want, I don't care. But I don't think we should be telling people what kind of characters to make when the rules clearly allow sparkledogs. I know we may not like it, heck, even hate it! But if we are going to put an end to this whole sparkle thing, we need to talk to steet. He's the ONLY person (unfortunately) who can fix this mess. And also unfortunately he's way too dissolved in Tailspin to do anything anymore. So we need to get his attention somehow...

I agree, debate is good. And we should try to change some things ourselves if steet won't. But...this mess is just going to go on forever unless steet takes away the rule. That's the only way this is going to be solved.

SentheSilverFangWolf: thank you! :D

I agree with Minifashion. If Steet wouldn't have allowed sparkledogs in the first place,there would be no fighting. I simply believe that there's no point in fighting or complaining because what is going to change? If Steet were to make a rule that bans sparkledogs,there would be outrage! I personally don't mind sparkledogs as long as they're not too sparkled up in ya know what I mean. My character Sen is kinda Sparkle considering the fact she's got wings but she's not rainbow colored! Wolflover's character Pat is sparkle but only a little bit. I think maybe instead of trying to get rid of them,maybe they should be limited in how sparkly they are and maybe limit how much sparkle characters a member could have. But,that's my opinion.

Maybe Steet doesn't care, but there are still some people who are true fans and don't want to see their fanstite turn into sparkle kindergaten. Some people fight because they do what admin should(and what he doesn't do) - they still care.

( read my last post before, it was too long to be send )

I don't agree with the fact to flame people cause they do sparkledog, and I personnaly like some of them. But you have to keep in mind that Balto source is not a place for all you characters. It's a place for creations who are related. I've many characters on deviantart and only one is on animation source, cause I draw it to be here ! ( on the lion king source by the way ). Every characters of I who are on this site have been made for the site and they ALL have a relation with the movie.

Think about it ... I've saw some galleries where ther was NONE creations related to the movie. Do you think it's normal ? Do you think it's normal to have 5 creations in relation for 200 who are not related ? I don't think so ... not since it's a site about BALTO. Would you send only cats on a site who is for dogs ? no. It's the same here .

( and when I say " you " I mean ALL of you, ALL of us, members. )

Just one thing to say :

What's the interest to be on a site about a movie if it's to everything but nothing about the movie ? I mean, look ALL at your gallery and characters. I don't think many of you have at least 1/4 of they creations who are Balto related. So ... Why are you sending you not related images here ? A little bit is ok, mostly if your character have a relation with at least one characters of the movie, but for the others creations ?

Most of you, members of animtion source, have forgot that animation source is not a site like deviantart, furafiinity, imageshack etc ... It's a site about MOVIES for FANS who want to make creations RELATED to those movie.
Balto source is not Wolves and dogs source, or canines source, it's BALTO source. And if you all have keep this in mind, there would never be fight like that.

When there was no characters on the site, there were not so many fight. And see, if there was only creations about the movie, there would be not those fights! So, yes, I understand those who complain, I'm one of them. And it WORKS !!! How can I say that ? Cause we fight during a long time some mounth ago to make animation source a better place and we win on the french site ... Some poeple here are just sick to see that Balto source is not a fan site anymore. Soon, you'll see that creations about Balto's movie would not be allow anymore cause of most of the members think BS is deviantart.

Ok, i think I wasnt clear enough...

Are you Steet? No. You are MightyBalto1925. Are you the admin? Can you remove the right to allow sparkle dogs? No and no. So stop it! Steet didnt removed the right of sparkle dogs, he never did and he will not do it. Why? YOU guys said he doesnt care. I dont know myself, i didnt even talked to steet. About cat, maybe she did it for stop it, but not every one get the message so they keep doing sparkle dogs. You know what I mean?

I know what its like when a site changes. I know whats its like since what happened on an old site i went before. Even with all the disagreement, things wont change. And your life didnt changed right? You have the same friends, same family, same routine... But all you care about right now is sparkle dogs. I can tell you this, it wont change. Its not your fault, its not mine either, and its not the other members's fault either. Its Steet's fault. He allowed sparkle dogs, and if he didnt allowed sparkle dogs, we wouldnt have this fight. Things have changed. Fans do what they want.

Thats my opinion

Ninja Assassin 3, if you're going to try and go toe-to-toe with me, have the courage to sign on and show who you are, rather than hiding in the anonymity of guest commenting. Coward. I don't take the slightest bit of interest in the comments of cowards.


And, @ Elizaveta -- WELL SAID! I totally agree. And I don't know that I could have said it better myself.


@ Sweet Fur -- Oh no...the comments and arguments are directed as much towards sparkle characters in total as much as they are at characters. We don't want ANY sparkly things here.

NO, Cat put those characters there because of what YOU guys are doing. Don't like it do ya? That's how WE TRUE fans feel. You're all putting things here that have no relation to Balto what-so-ever. And just because Steet isn't baby sitting, doesn't give you the right to flood the site with your stuff. Even if he made the rules, things are out of control. You won't like what I have to say, but if you don't like it, you can leave. This is a FAN SITE, not a place to post whatever you want site.

Excellent points. I agree with you.

Hey! First of all Jordan is right: complaining or whining is not going to eliminate sparkle dogs. But if you say that Steet doesnt care of the site, he wont care more about your hate of sparkle dogs. Oh and its funny, because CWH14T (dont take ot personally Cat) put pokemons and unicorns in BS. Already sparkle dogs are more related to Balto. But you did nothing! Its all about the freaking sparkle dogs! Besides, let CWH14T do what she wants, its her choice.

What does it change in your life anyway?now logic is illogic... And not because they are sparkle dogs that they are not related to Balto! "but Mini, Steet wasnt supposed to allow Sparkle dogs and blah blah blah..." well now he allowed them and we cant do anything about it! Steet is the admin, Steet makes all the rules. Not you. So if steet doesnt care anymore, stop it because he wont change that!!!

Thats why I agree with my friend Singapaw.

No we won't stop. Balto fansite is BALTO fansite. Now it turned to all-canines-allowed.

Look, take this from someone who really likes sparkle dogs. I happen to like vibrant colors on animals and wings and stuff. The difference is I like them to have complex and well thought out personalities. Not that none of the sparkles don't. That's not the point anyway.

The point is, I just don't think they belong here, that's all.

I am well aware sparkledogs are allowed on the site, and I must say I did see a few good ones. But I just think there is a difference between something that just isn't Balto related, and sparkledogs. I have characters that I made myself that have completely normal markings and colors, and they aren't Balto related. But the only reason I don't have sparkledogs here is that I believe they shouldn't be on here.

Dogs/wolves that aren't Balto related are fine with me, but they must still fill the Balto universe qualifications, at least in my opinion. And since this universe is based on a historical event, I'm guessing there are no neon colored wolves in the real world. That's the thing that gets me.

I know some of you have seen me making fun of sparkledogs, but that was because i didn't like them on this site, on DA yeah seriously, sparkle it up! That's what so great about DA, you can do...anything!

This is just what I think. The rules of this site allow sparkledogs, and although that isn't okay with me, it is what it is for now.

Furrafinity I think.

I, myself don't think Sparkledogs belong here. This is 1925, not kindergarten 2012. Scenes and emos were not around then. Nor glittery creatures. It pains me to see basic linearts (Note; NOT EVEN COLORED NICELY.) and scene kids with dog forms. And besides that, there is a fine line between sparkle dogs and unrealistic. Unrealistics (Not glittery, rainbow puked, stitched smiles, but blue-grays, colors that don't blend (browns, tans etc.)) should be accepted. It annoys the living hell out of me, it really does. Half of the characters here could all be wiped out, from no relation to Balto, or ANY of the characters for that matter. Oh! But "Seeing boris fly in the sky with geese" is totally Balto related, right? :/ Now there are even recolors (I'm not mentioning any names, but I saw Aleu with a necklace on and a different name!) Not recolored, just a screenshot with a necklace on.), and uncredited linearts.

So yeah, I do understand why people do comment on sparkledogs pages. They simply don't belong here. If Steet was a little bit more time-giving to his other thousand websites (besides Talespin ), maybe things would be better.

As I said before, I have one pink-black-and-white sparkledog, but atleast I keep her on dA, and not interfering here.


That's my two cents . You can yell or complain, go ahead. I don't really care. This is just my opinion, as everyone else has.

Sorry for the irrelevant comment, but what's FA? I hear people referring to it all the time. Saying that you should go there? Well what is it?
(and I dislike dA. I have my own reasons for not really wanting to be there)

~this is sort of a question to DetectiveRJ's comment~

One thing I've noticed that causes these sparkle dog arguments is the CHARACTERS. Of which involves the CHARACTER section. I mean galleries that I faved back in 07-08 sometimes had sparkle dogs, but there wasn't that much of a controversy about them because not everyone was making one into a character because there was no Character Section. So in a way if you look at it, what causes this whole mess is the character section per say.

I'm just putting my point of view, personally I'm not one for sparkle dogs, they have no reason to be here. But at the same time I'm remaining neutral cause I have better things to do then argue about what goes on with this site cause truly unless Steet himself changes things or people talk to him, then the talking and arguing is for nothing and it's a waste of typing. Just saying.

I agree with jordan , I am not a fan of them myself , I disagree with the sparklestyle , but the fact we disagree / dislike them , doesn't allow us to be unrespectful toward them or their artist , That's to my oppinion a lack of maturity , you are of course free to give out your opinion but as far as I know , there is a ranting post on the forums , or ¿ why doesn't anyone make it up ?

With the current set of rules we won´t get rid of them. But Singapaw is right, complaining won´t help. All we can do is to ignore such creations and move on. There is that filter feature waiting for usage for people who really can´t ignore them on their own. And before one comes up with the "but some of them label their sparklewoofs as "ralistic" statement, you are free to report those mis-placed ones to the mods so they´ll make the creator label them correctly. Easy deal and those rants, complainings, useless-almost-flamewars will come to an end.

Well instead of telling them that the character doesn't belong on BS- what would you have them do? Besides stay silent, if they don't want to see BS turn into something it's not.

long ranting comments.
I'm not really saying that they should or shouldn't be here. I was more saying that someone needs to do something about it instead of complaining in long ranting comments, and they need to do it quickly. I'm sick of all these comments on people pages that aren't about 'faving' the char, its about how the char doesn't fit it balto source!

I agree with JC totally. That's why the site DA exists. I see no reason why characters to do not pertain to Balto need to be here at all, in fact.

Oh yeah,JersyCaptain...don't tell Singapaw or any of us to deal with it! Sparkledog lovers will keep fighting for their awesome characters! So you DEAL with that!

I believe that's it's not about whether the characters should be Balto related. Why can't they be sparkledogs in which their purpose or personalities are Balto related? Sparkledogs have just as much right to be here just as realistic! This whole argument or debate must stop! Leave sparkledogs alone!

Well you're going to have to deal with it, Singapaw. This is a fan site, not an art site. It's not about showcasing every weird or disgustingly-colorful thing you (meaning ANYONE) can come up with. The fans were here first. And they were (and are) here to be fans of the Balto movies (and the other movies featured on AS). NOT to see their fan site overloaded with irrelevant nonsense.

I agree with members not needing to comment because the character is a sparkledog. I have only commented on one of the many in existence on the site, but it was because the character was close to realistic and I honestly liked their design and bio. (ie. a positive comment) I'm afraid that there will never be an end to the comments and complaints unless the sparkledogs leave.

Back in 2007-2008 (Yes I'm an old member.) Steet and the Animation Source staff banned "sparkle" animals from the sources. This caused members to be more creative and make much more realistic characters. The members were more of the true fans then... but now about two years ago after Steet allowed them again, most of the true fans have left. The site has become dirtier and a lot more trolled then in the past, and we of the older members who still remain want to be able to clean it up again.

Yes, I am a member who does not support sparkledogs, But I am not a member who comments on the pages of sparkle animals, and have really only discussed and debated it with other members on news/forum topics discussing it. I don't support them, but I don't criticize members about it. There is a difference.

(I also second DetectiveRJ's comment below.)

This is an honest question to anyone who clearly has a sensitive streak over these sparkledogs: were you chased off DA because of these characters? Is that why you are posting them here? Because you see BS as some sort of haven? Well, sorry, people but a fansite doesn't work like that. If DA is what the trenches were to a WW1 veteran to you, you could go to FA who do have a friendlier stance towards sparkle characters or, otherwise, just keep the characters in your hard drive instead of publishing them for your own pleasure and not that of others.

And, no, it isn't the end of the world, no-one is saying that so the passive aggressiveness doesn't work here. But there was a time when sparkledogs weren't allowed here and where fan characters that had everything to do with Balto were encouraged and that is what the majority of members here want back. This website is not an art community at the end of day.

Also, Steet is not allowing sparkledogs here because he agrees with you all btw, he's allowing them because he doesn't care anymore. Nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with you so don't throw that argument at me.

And 'be considerate'? Oh, wow. Like it's such a bad thing to encourage Balto fan art/characters/graphics on a Balto fan site.

Sparkle dogs have no place on this site, that's why people dislike them. I for one am one of those who don't like them here, they belong on DA. They have nothing to do with Balto what-so-ever, so why need you slap them on here, honestly.

Art & Beachboy :: Beware..of the gummy bears! ^^

Everyone else :: I'm glad you all agree. Its just getting a little outta hand really, its not that big of a deal! Thank you for your supporting comments c:

(woopy :: don't worry 'bout it^^)

Thank you!!! I could hug you right now! Who cares if people wanna make sparkledogs! Some people make such a big deal out of it but really it's a stupid pointless debate! Love this image btw^^.