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Some of you may be aware of the fact that a lot of us older members are upset over the fact that people are here for all the wrong reasons. This news is what this news will be focusing on.


Yes, this fan site is out of control, and needs to be fixed. At this rate Animation Source has gone above and beyond the words "fan site". So I would like you to ask yourself, am I truly a fan? Think hard, and think seriously. Because if you are a truly a fan of whatever site you may spend your time on, then you wouldn't be using this site as a character hub. You would be sending in submissions of strictly fan related content. Animation Source is not an alternate site for Deviantart. Nor is this a character hub. I've seen a lot of people who come here and make nothing but characters.

I would also like to stress the fact that this makes this site not able to function like it should. How? Well, let's take me for example. It makes it harder for me to post a fan news when there isn't much of any content worth sharing. You see where I'm going with this? No food=no dinner. This can also be said for the selection of the week. Sometimes this can be the fault of the mods, but sometimes it can also be the fact that there isn't anything to rotate to.

The following quote is by Imagine, and I have received her okay to post it here.

Link to post | The topic itself

"There's a difference between liking something and being a fan of it.

To like something, in terms of fan art, means to just draw something related to a movie or TV show and post it somewhere, (something like that) and it's okay if you only like something! :)

A true fan would be completely committed to drawing only characters from from that particular movie or TV show. Well, not 24/7 obviously, but on a fan site dedicated to that movie.

I like a lot of things. Oranges, pencils, vacations, softball, wasting time on the internet XD and if we're talking about movies. Animated--Lion King, Beauty and the Beast; Live Action--Just Go with It, Benchwarmers, and Valentine's Day (I'm a sucker for comedies XD)

But if I want to be a FAN of these things...I would be almost obsessed with them!

And then there is the size of fan. Meaning are you a BIG fan...or only a small fan? This is where it gets tricky... and I also think it's kinda hard where to draw the line between a fan, and a person who only likes it, especially if they claim to be a fan/not a fan. If it were easy, the problem would already be solved.

Here's the dictionary.com definition of "fan."

..."an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer"...

Enthusiastic. That's the key word in there. I have to admit I might be contradicting myself the more I write this, and that may be the problem this site has had for a long time. There is no device telling you how many fan arts of Balto you post in order to become a fan, or how many semi to non-related stuff you post in order not to be a fan. People have to decide that for themselves, and people...have their own opinions on such things. And BAM! Explosion of fights, flames, and wars reek havoc on innocent members...Bum bum buuuum!"


 

As of May 16th, the character hub idea has been voted out.

That doesn't mean that this over, and that you will be able to proceed with your characters. We're now considering a committee.

I would highly recommend, if you haven't already, to move ALL of your non-related characters to DA. Or any other site that you may be a member on that accepts art. 


Do you guys remember my joke from last month? The joke that all your characters will be moved to a new site? Well, this idea may just come to life (NOTE: This is just an idea. It may or may not happen, so don't panic). Like I said above, a lot of you seem to focus only on your characters, and a lot of them, at least from what I've seen, isn't even related to Balto. A lot of us members have thought that this site would be a good idea (Steet is okay with the idea). And before you go and say, "but this is Animation source". Any of you remember Gamebook Land (no longer exists)?  Well, Animation Source didn't exist at the time, but this site was completely indipenant from from Balto Source and the Lion King Source.

Quote by Steet | The topic itself

"- The difficulty of what is allowed or not is the main problem, as it can't be something really objective. As we've seen previously, having a character being "related" to a Balto character just doesn't work because people cheat.

- On the french side, since about 6 months, the characters must be activated before being on the site, and the moderators are filtering what comes in. It seems to work, but let's not forget that the amount of characters being validated on the french side is not even 1/10 of what's on the english site! Also, more submissions and more mods = conflicts over what should be allowed or not.

- And I remember that when mods had to validate characters on the english side, there were lots and lots of characters in the waiting list, always, no matter how many mods.

Here's what I suggest :

- Making the "Characters Source" site as suggested, and on this site, allow any kind of characters (as long as it respects the no-sex, no-violence rule), and no validation required by the mods.

- But on any other site, the submissions will have to be validated, and mods will filter what comes in.

- Then, I would post a news on the sites to let everyone know about this change, and allow them some time to move their "wrong" characters and art there.

- After that while, mods will be allowed to filter and delete any art/character that doesn't fit a site.
"


What classifies as not related?

Sparkle dogs

unrealistic designs

wings

legwarmers

pircings

scarfs

Anything that can be described as scene dog/emo dog, etc. If it can't happen in the movie of concern, then chances are you shouldn't send it.

Also, this doesn't mean you can't be creative, so don't go there. You can be just as creative with a realistic dog that is related to the movie of concern.

What is allowed?

Realistic colors and markings

Collars (if the animal of concern can wear one)

Relation to Balto. And not just: He lives in nome, or he knows Balto. Try and be more complex and devolop the character.

Your own version of one of Balto's un-named pups, or a character that was seen but has no name.

Human characters, but keep in a style that is from that time period.


If you're interested in helping in restoring this site, then  this is how you can help: Go through your galleries and delete anything that shouldn't be there. Go through your characters and clean them out. Send in content related to the site. The last thing you can do is use this banner here in your profile. But ONLY if Hecate says you can, she's very picky on who uses it.

So that will be all for now. Have a nice day!




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Comments

May 18, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Ancient -- It is risky, yes, but there really are no other options

May 18, 2012
Usa
Former mod/retired
That's a risky idea considering some of the comments thrown around between mods and non mods. I'd seek not only steets approval, but at least one other mod willing to jump on board with this. If you don't have it already.

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
If you need any help with anything, I'd more than willing to help in anyway possible^^ I wasn't around to see the sources in their glory days. I'd like to help restore them to how they were, or at least close to how they were back when. So if I may, may I be a part of this committee?

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
I'm just going to be hopeful nothing goes wrong this time.

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Let me be your everlasting light
Thanks for putting me on the list! I can't wait to help out! :D

May 17, 2012
Uk Male
BHA Dream Team, Noodle Keepers
Yknow as much as id like the site to come back to its original self those years back.. Thats going to be Impossible.

Though to atleast try fix this whole mess is something that i would like to do. This site has a place in my heart from my past and has brought me to the woman of my dreams. i cant see it die out..

Id like to volunteer to help out too. =)

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
JC, hey don't forget I was apart of that too haha... one of the reasons why i've not had involvement with this website. But ya know screw it. But yeah... that is a sore reminder.

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
Mighty: Alright, though I might just let you link it where you feel that it fits.

JC: I appreciate that you're looking out for us greatly.

Everyone: I'm nearly finished. I had to take care of something in real life, but the actual process of putting it together essentially took 15-20 minutes.

May 17, 2012
Usa Male
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
That's cool, LA. Just looking out for you guys.

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
Animal: You can link it if you want to.

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Jersey: We actually ditched that idea, and it's not really a private forum, per say, it's more of a blog constructed by Animal and myself for the soul (though not initial) purpose of this Committee. Yes, it's only accessible by direct link, but that is for our own protection, and if you read the Plan, there are are several instances where I have included a shout out to the public. Thank you for your consideration, but I have a feeling that the group will do a fine job of keeping steet in the loop, and he will be sent the link to the blog and be allowed to join if he sees it fit.

May 17, 2012
Usa Male
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
Careful...the last time someone made a private forum (Conay and a few others), even though it was honest and on the level, there were plans to ban the whole bunch of them for allegedly trying to usurp the authority of the moderators, hurt steet, and troll. This was not true at all, but that is what was charged against them. Mighty and I were also a part of it...and it's ONLY intention was to do good for Animation Source. We even kept steet in the loop. But it didn't matter to those mods who were wrongly accusing us of trying to undermine the site. It led to a lot of drama...and terrible (and false) accusations against us (trolling, etc.).

A private forum may be good, but you may want to make sure steet knows about it right away, and that you don't necessarily CALL it a "private forum" or leave anyone out if they want to see it...or you'll end up facing what we did.

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Wow guys, I just want to share something real fast, even if it is kinda sappy...

I was just updating my profile, after changing my avatar, and I was typing up a short statement, that basically reads: "...considering what I am currently doing to help the Sources break free...." and it kind of hit me. I'm making a difference, I'm going to make a HUGE difference! For years I've wanted to be a mod, thought I deserved it, and floated between being active and being non, though I always wanted to help the Source recover. Look at me now! Look at all of us! Things are getting done, we are moving towards our goal! At long last! Did anybody guess that it would happen so suddenly? I didn't, and I would have NEVER thought that I would have such a large part in it. Little old me! Sure I have friends, my own cliques, but I've never been so.... well, you get what I mean.

I'm just saying, does anyone else feel this to be a bit surreal?

:howl:

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
Big question...

Hecate, Mighty, would you like to post your topics (this one and the French rules) on the forums I'm going to link you guys to yourselves, or would you like me to?...

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Stevie: I just sent you a PM asking if you were on board, then looked down at the comments and saw, "I will, of course, offer..." and was all, "I just love me sometimes"..... Well, to err is human. xD

Angle Dreamer: Thanks for volunteering, I'll add you to the list!

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
I'm making a private forum that I (and Lady_Aniu) will pm links to all of the committee members for further discussion. It will take roughly 30 minutes as I'm using a project website that I never finished. (and now don't have to)

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Let me be your everlasting light
If you still need volunteers, I'd be more than willing. :3

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
I will, of course, offer any help needed whatsoever and would most certainly like to be part of the committee. I have been fighting for the side of a true Fan-site for Animation Source for awhile as it is, so I would gladly be a part in helping to clean the sites. The sites that I visit the most I see have volunteers to clean them up, but I would gladly do it for another source(s) if told.

Hecate: That is quite helpful indeed. I like how detailed the French rules are. We will definitely have to use them to work with for the English rules by the committee.

Black Rose: Ah. Those were things that I was thinking about myself. Thank you for suggesting them.

*Everyone:* I can't tell you guys how excited I am that there is a large movement towards a cleaner fansite. Honestly, I pray that we can save the Sources back to what they were in 2007-2008 or even better.

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
You cannot make a private topic. You can however send it in a PM from the forums. Just add the usernames to who should receive it.

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Okay, people, I'm not expert, but is it even possible to make a private topic on the forums? Private as in no one can see it. Because if it's not, then we will have to find another way. This topic, I feel, must stay private, to protect the members, just as a precaution. Does a mod need to set this up? I don't spend much times on the forums, I figured it would be a bit easier than this... :red:

May 17, 2012
Uk Female
Fluff Stuff
Here here! Restore the sources!

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Thank you very much Hecate!

May 17, 2012
Belgium Female
Chasseuse de voleurs
And here is the translation about the french rules =D http://www.animationsource.org/board/post1442732.html#p1442732

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Wolves of Mercy Falls
Thank you for allowing me to help! I'm glad that I can bring up some good points and I can't wait to start discussing. :)

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Black Rose: First off, welcome to the Committee, and thanks for volunteering!
Second, you have to very good points, one of which I thought of as I rewrote the Plan, but forgot to add it, that is the freezing of characters being made. On your other point, that did come up before I wrote the Plan, but it seemed to get forgetting, very nice job in bringing it back up! As I am planning on making a private forum topic where my new Plan will be posted, revised and approved, I will go ahead and add those in as points to discuss among the Committee members. I, as well as the other members, I imagine, would appreciate any input that the public can give us. Feel free to discus it now, I'm just making sure that everyone knows that I'll be adding it to the Plan. Welcome aboard!

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Wolves of Mercy Falls
I would also be willing to help out as much as I can. I will probably be more help now than in a couple months when I leave for college. I'm not sure how much time I will be able to dedicate during the school year, but I will still want to be a part of this and help as much as I can.

Also, I have an idea for the Committee Plan. While it is taking place and the characters are being cleaned out, would it be possible to prevent any new characters from being made in that time? My thinking is that, if I understand the Plan correctly, having more and more characters coming in while this Plan is going on will make the whole process much harder. Members can wait a month or two to post their new characters, I think.

And one more question. After the Plan happens, will characters once again have to be validated by Mods before being accepted on the site? Sorry if that is explained somewhere and I missed it, but I just wanted to make sure.

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Glad to see that I'm not the only one suffering! Wait... No, I didn't mean it like that!
XD

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
Lady: Yeeahhh, I can understand that xD I don't have an iPod, but my mother has a Kindlefire, and I know how hard it is to navigate the net, let alone type anything. X_x It took me five minutes to get to YouTube on that device. Not because of speed, but typing was mission impossible.

Guest
Guest
May 17, 2012
Mighty: Okay, I'll make the topic in a little bit, I'm on my iPod right now and that coukprove to be difficult.

Sweet: You want to join? Thank you! You'll get more information when I make this topic. xD

May 17, 2012
Usa Female
I'm really starting to like the idea of this. Evne though I have been reluctant to try and involve myself, I wouldn't mind helping in whatever way that I can

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