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Some of you may be aware of the fact that a lot of us older members are upset over the fact that people are here for all the wrong reasons. This news is what this news will be focusing on.


Yes, this fan site is out of control, and needs to be fixed. At this rate Animation Source has gone above and beyond the words "fan site". So I would like you to ask yourself, am I truly a fan? Think hard, and think seriously. Because if you are a truly a fan of whatever site you may spend your time on, then you wouldn't be using this site as a character hub. You would be sending in submissions of strictly fan related content. Animation Source is not an alternate site for Deviantart. Nor is this a character hub. I've seen a lot of people who come here and make nothing but characters.

I would also like to stress the fact that this makes this site not able to function like it should. How? Well, let's take me for example. It makes it harder for me to post a fan news when there isn't much of any content worth sharing. You see where I'm going with this? No food=no dinner. This can also be said for the selection of the week. Sometimes this can be the fault of the mods, but sometimes it can also be the fact that there isn't anything to rotate to.

The following quote is by Imagine, and I have received her okay to post it here.

Link to post | The topic itself

"There's a difference between liking something and being a fan of it.

To like something, in terms of fan art, means to just draw something related to a movie or TV show and post it somewhere, (something like that) and it's okay if you only like something! :)

A true fan would be completely committed to drawing only characters from from that particular movie or TV show. Well, not 24/7 obviously, but on a fan site dedicated to that movie.

I like a lot of things. Oranges, pencils, vacations, softball, wasting time on the internet XD and if we're talking about movies. Animated--Lion King, Beauty and the Beast; Live Action--Just Go with It, Benchwarmers, and Valentine's Day (I'm a sucker for comedies XD)

But if I want to be a FAN of these things...I would be almost obsessed with them!

And then there is the size of fan. Meaning are you a BIG fan...or only a small fan? This is where it gets tricky... and I also think it's kinda hard where to draw the line between a fan, and a person who only likes it, especially if they claim to be a fan/not a fan. If it were easy, the problem would already be solved.

Here's the dictionary.com definition of "fan."

..."an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer"...

Enthusiastic. That's the key word in there. I have to admit I might be contradicting myself the more I write this, and that may be the problem this site has had for a long time. There is no device telling you how many fan arts of Balto you post in order to become a fan, or how many semi to non-related stuff you post in order not to be a fan. People have to decide that for themselves, and people...have their own opinions on such things. And BAM! Explosion of fights, flames, and wars reek havoc on innocent members...Bum bum buuuum!"


 

As of May 16th, the character hub idea has been voted out.

That doesn't mean that this over, and that you will be able to proceed with your characters. We're now considering a committee.

I would highly recommend, if you haven't already, to move ALL of your non-related characters to DA. Or any other site that you may be a member on that accepts art. 


Do you guys remember my joke from last month? The joke that all your characters will be moved to a new site? Well, this idea may just come to life (NOTE: This is just an idea. It may or may not happen, so don't panic). Like I said above, a lot of you seem to focus only on your characters, and a lot of them, at least from what I've seen, isn't even related to Balto. A lot of us members have thought that this site would be a good idea (Steet is okay with the idea). And before you go and say, "but this is Animation source". Any of you remember Gamebook Land (no longer exists)?  Well, Animation Source didn't exist at the time, but this site was completely indipenant from from Balto Source and the Lion King Source.

Quote by Steet | The topic itself

"- The difficulty of what is allowed or not is the main problem, as it can't be something really objective. As we've seen previously, having a character being "related" to a Balto character just doesn't work because people cheat.

- On the french side, since about 6 months, the characters must be activated before being on the site, and the moderators are filtering what comes in. It seems to work, but let's not forget that the amount of characters being validated on the french side is not even 1/10 of what's on the english site! Also, more submissions and more mods = conflicts over what should be allowed or not.

- And I remember that when mods had to validate characters on the english side, there were lots and lots of characters in the waiting list, always, no matter how many mods.

Here's what I suggest :

- Making the "Characters Source" site as suggested, and on this site, allow any kind of characters (as long as it respects the no-sex, no-violence rule), and no validation required by the mods.

- But on any other site, the submissions will have to be validated, and mods will filter what comes in.

- Then, I would post a news on the sites to let everyone know about this change, and allow them some time to move their "wrong" characters and art there.

- After that while, mods will be allowed to filter and delete any art/character that doesn't fit a site.
"


What classifies as not related?

Sparkle dogs

unrealistic designs

wings

legwarmers

pircings

scarfs

Anything that can be described as scene dog/emo dog, etc. If it can't happen in the movie of concern, then chances are you shouldn't send it.

Also, this doesn't mean you can't be creative, so don't go there. You can be just as creative with a realistic dog that is related to the movie of concern.

What is allowed?

Realistic colors and markings

Collars (if the animal of concern can wear one)

Relation to Balto. And not just: He lives in nome, or he knows Balto. Try and be more complex and devolop the character.

Your own version of one of Balto's un-named pups, or a character that was seen but has no name.

Human characters, but keep in a style that is from that time period.


If you're interested in helping in restoring this site, then  this is how you can help: Go through your galleries and delete anything that shouldn't be there. Go through your characters and clean them out. Send in content related to the site. The last thing you can do is use this banner here in your profile. But ONLY if Hecate says you can, she's very picky on who uses it.

So that will be all for now. Have a nice day!




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Comments

May 19, 2012
Usa
Former mod/retired
Well ;) thank you very much, but there is a little correction, I was a former mod Lol. I just haven't figured out how to change the "pack/group" thing on my profile to remove it yet. Ah well, such is life haha, maybe I'm not as internet savvy as I thought X3

May 19, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
Brown Wolf, Ancient: I'm glad that you're with us in this. I think that it really helps that there are moderators as well as regular members with an interest in making the sites a cleaner fanbase.

May 19, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Ancient -- Well, I've been on board with this restoration thing from the start, so yeah, XD

Guest
Guest
May 19, 2012
Ancient: Nah, it's alright, no hard feelings! We currently have four mods on board, not including yourself. xD

May 18, 2012
Usa
Former mod/retired
When I said "the approval of some other mod" I didn't know Brown was on board Lol. I'm for this idea then, I see you already have many others taking part in this. If there's any way I can be of assistance, please let me know ;)

May 18, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Lady Aniu -- Hey, it's alright. I understand your way of thinking ;)

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Well, if the creators are no longer around, they are no longer being referenced to, and have no relationship with the Baltoverse anyway, I don't see why we couldn't delete them, in due time. I'm just the one who prefers having her bases covered first, if you get what I mean.

May 18, 2012
Usa Male
Site Builder
If the people no longer have an account on the site, I don't see why you SHOULDN'T just go ahead and deactivate them--or flat-out delete them. ESPECIALLY if they aren't related to the site. (Just my 2c worth, but I'm sure you all follow my logic here.)

May 18, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Lady Aniu -- I have noticed that some characters on the Sources are still around, but the people who made them no longer have an account on the site. And those said characters have no relation to the movies the Sources are dedicated to.

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
(Wohoo! This is the 202nd comment, which shows that people are truly interested.)

Faye: That's great news. I'm thrilled that you are doing that. Hopefully more members will follow your example.

JC: I feel quite the same. This is a very good sign that this movement will work.

Mighty: Thank you. I have complete faith in your abilities in contacting Steet in a very considerate yet still informative manner.

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Mighty: Thanks so much!

Jersey: It IS a ray of hope, so exciting, especially since -technically- we haven't done anything yet! I'm so psyched! In more than one ways... XD

May 18, 2012
Usa Male
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
Faye: Yeah, huh? lol

Lots of people cooperating in cleaning out galleries of unrelated art/characters and sparkles. Certainly a good thing.

Hm...

...I keep waiting for the "other shoe" to drop... :icon310:

Meh -- with all luck, my worries are totally unfounded.

May 18, 2012
Cuba
Spirit/101 Dal Sources
JC ;; I remember thoes days! < 3

Mighty ;; I'm all for this. Clearing out my galleries as I type now hehe.
and yes for a Character Source, not like we don't have enough people around here
that make more sources so it wouldn't be a bad thing at all (:

May 18, 2012
Usa Male
O' Cap'n My Cap'n!
You know what? It was really refreshing going to the "What's New Today" at the bottom of the Balto Source home page and NOT seeing sparkle dogs, or dogs with illogical human accessories, featured there! (Well, but for one thing...but it was not terribly major...)

This is a ray of hope...

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
Aniu: Sure, no problem.

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Singapew: For that I would Issue, I move that we take after the French rules. I am rather fond of those rules, as it has been appeasing most parties. Go here >
www.animationsource.org/board/post1442732.html#p1442732
to read them. I agree with their policy on "tattoos," so to say, and they cover the unrealistic design, realistic colors problem as well.

Brown Wolf: Yes, I have no problem with that, only we should check to see that the creator hasn't made a new account and is still using the characters that they can't deactivate.

Mighty: Do you think it would be possible for you to make a new news article where the public can approach us with their questions and concerns? Maybe mention the current members and the list of topics that are up for debate? Steet also needs to be contacted, and I would trust you with that responsibility, as you have contacted him before. Feel free to send him a link to the blogsite!

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Most real wolf designs are...well not really designs. a lot of the time they are one colour, like white or grey etc. So can we still have creative designs {but not things like flower shapes on their rumps'} like eye markings, muzzle band markings and other things you wouldn't Normally seen on a wolf, but aren't super crazy?

A lot of my characters have realistic colourings, but their designs are a little non-realistic.

May 18, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Okay... Hmm... Any thoughts on me deactivating the non-related and sparkle characters of members who have deleted their accounts?

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Skul: After looking through your galleries, I can see that you are a rather large Alue fan, and have dedicated most of your images to interaction between your characters and said she wolf. I would be happy to accept your help, and add you to the list as soon as I can!

Brown: I'm not sure that I agree entirely. Well, I see where you are coming from... I'm on the fence so to say. I'm reluctant to delete anything without the creator being alerted, and what if they are active on other Sources? Well, we have plenty of time, but that's part of my two cents for yah. But I do opt to discuss this in further detail in a bit, just not right now. We have other things to go through first. You do raise an important issue though.

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
Brown Wolf: I would most certainly support that idea. More than likely a good percentage of the members may never log back into the site as it is...

May 18, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Not entirely sure if I should post this here, but I'm curious about the idea of deactivating the non related and sparkle characters respectively that belong to members who haven't even logged on to the site in such a long time.

May 18, 2012
Usa Male
Site Builder
After a short while of considering it, I will help out anywhere I can. I too want Animation Source to be a quality site, and if there is anything I can do to help, let me know.

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Well Zion, I'm happy to say that the final decision is not mine, and you already have two votes for you from two members that I trust immensely. Whatever my team decides, I will follow. Plus, I never said it was about how many works you uploaded, it was about the ratio of images with official characters versus the images with your own character. But, I've given my opinion, it's up to me team now.

Btw, everyone else, I won't be online like at all tomorrow, unfortunately, I'm being forced to hang out with Third Day and Building 429 all day, so, sorry. But you'll manage without me, I'm sure! XD

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
I have no problem with Zion either. Like Animal said, as long as the member is participating the way they should be, they should be fine.

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Aurora Borealis Alpha Female
I have nothing against Zion participating as long as he is for the cause of purifying the sites. My only concern about the members on the committee is that it consist (at least mostly if not all) of members that regularly participate on the sites and have been on Animation Source for longer than a year or so.

This would help out as members who were active around 2008 (when I came to the sources) can assist in the details as to the structure of fansubmissions and the rules from the earlier years. Back when there were mods assigned to each and every fansubmission category, and when mods were able to stay on top of members keeping their submissions to related works. Knowing what structure was used then to not only keep peace on the site, but also encouraged members to follow the rules in a considerate manner is one of the main keys to cleaning the sites.

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Let me be your everlasting light
That was a Balto image, Lady Aniu. o.o

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Angel my dear, everyone has to have at least one fan-based image, it's the rule. You can't upload any images without first upload a fan-based one with an official character in it. Trust me, I would love the help, but I'm worried about the group looking like hypocrites. Of course, it's not even my call, I was just pointing out an observation. It's the entire group's choice.

May 18, 2012
Uk Male
BHA Dream Team, Noodle Keepers
Aniu - If you appreciate my offer for help. Take it. Just because i dont contribute ART or IMAGES doesnt mean im any less dedicated to helping out the site. I just found myself difficult to make the fanimages is all. Does that make me any less of a Member whos worthy to help out cause he cares?

Course it doesnt. I aint meaning to sound anywhat offensive in this, im just pointing out the obvious. Plus id appreciate working along side my Angel to help out this site. It is something special to the both of us. and to our friends.

ALSO Angel just posted the image i HAVE done.. so.. yea

May 18, 2012
Usa Female
Let me be your everlasting light
Lady Aniu- you missed it. xD Zi does have one.
It's here http://www.animationsource.org [...] 1.html&numart=6642&display=120
:)

Guest
Guest
May 18, 2012
Zion: While I appreciate your interest in helping, why does your image gallery not have a single image dedicated to the official characters? Just something to think about....

Ancient: Unfortunately, it is the only option. And we are all prepared for the back lash and flames that we KNOW we are going to get. I also don't understand why we need the approval of certain members who happen to be mods. If the mods are going to get upset that we did something with out their help, they should stop and consider just how long they've had to do something themselves. Of course, I'm not accusing any mods of anything.

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