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Some of you may be aware of the fact that a lot of us older members are upset over the fact that people are here for all the wrong reasons. This news is what this news will be focusing on.


Yes, this fan site is out of control, and needs to be fixed. At this rate Animation Source has gone above and beyond the words "fan site". So I would like you to ask yourself, am I truly a fan? Think hard, and think seriously. Because if you are a truly a fan of whatever site you may spend your time on, then you wouldn't be using this site as a character hub. You would be sending in submissions of strictly fan related content. Animation Source is not an alternate site for Deviantart. Nor is this a character hub. I've seen a lot of people who come here and make nothing but characters.

I would also like to stress the fact that this makes this site not able to function like it should. How? Well, let's take me for example. It makes it harder for me to post a fan news when there isn't much of any content worth sharing. You see where I'm going with this? No food=no dinner. This can also be said for the selection of the week. Sometimes this can be the fault of the mods, but sometimes it can also be the fact that there isn't anything to rotate to.

The following quote is by Imagine, and I have received her okay to post it here.

Link to post | The topic itself

"There's a difference between liking something and being a fan of it.

To like something, in terms of fan art, means to just draw something related to a movie or TV show and post it somewhere, (something like that) and it's okay if you only like something! :)

A true fan would be completely committed to drawing only characters from from that particular movie or TV show. Well, not 24/7 obviously, but on a fan site dedicated to that movie.

I like a lot of things. Oranges, pencils, vacations, softball, wasting time on the internet XD and if we're talking about movies. Animated--Lion King, Beauty and the Beast; Live Action--Just Go with It, Benchwarmers, and Valentine's Day (I'm a sucker for comedies XD)

But if I want to be a FAN of these things...I would be almost obsessed with them!

And then there is the size of fan. Meaning are you a BIG fan...or only a small fan? This is where it gets tricky... and I also think it's kinda hard where to draw the line between a fan, and a person who only likes it, especially if they claim to be a fan/not a fan. If it were easy, the problem would already be solved.

Here's the dictionary.com definition of "fan."

..."an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer"...

Enthusiastic. That's the key word in there. I have to admit I might be contradicting myself the more I write this, and that may be the problem this site has had for a long time. There is no device telling you how many fan arts of Balto you post in order to become a fan, or how many semi to non-related stuff you post in order not to be a fan. People have to decide that for themselves, and people...have their own opinions on such things. And BAM! Explosion of fights, flames, and wars reek havoc on innocent members...Bum bum buuuum!"


 

As of May 16th, the character hub idea has been voted out.

That doesn't mean that this over, and that you will be able to proceed with your characters. We're now considering a committee.

I would highly recommend, if you haven't already, to move ALL of your non-related characters to DA. Or any other site that you may be a member on that accepts art. 


Do you guys remember my joke from last month? The joke that all your characters will be moved to a new site? Well, this idea may just come to life (NOTE: This is just an idea. It may or may not happen, so don't panic). Like I said above, a lot of you seem to focus only on your characters, and a lot of them, at least from what I've seen, isn't even related to Balto. A lot of us members have thought that this site would be a good idea (Steet is okay with the idea). And before you go and say, "but this is Animation source". Any of you remember Gamebook Land (no longer exists)?  Well, Animation Source didn't exist at the time, but this site was completely indipenant from from Balto Source and the Lion King Source.

Quote by Steet | The topic itself

"- The difficulty of what is allowed or not is the main problem, as it can't be something really objective. As we've seen previously, having a character being "related" to a Balto character just doesn't work because people cheat.

- On the french side, since about 6 months, the characters must be activated before being on the site, and the moderators are filtering what comes in. It seems to work, but let's not forget that the amount of characters being validated on the french side is not even 1/10 of what's on the english site! Also, more submissions and more mods = conflicts over what should be allowed or not.

- And I remember that when mods had to validate characters on the english side, there were lots and lots of characters in the waiting list, always, no matter how many mods.

Here's what I suggest :

- Making the "Characters Source" site as suggested, and on this site, allow any kind of characters (as long as it respects the no-sex, no-violence rule), and no validation required by the mods.

- But on any other site, the submissions will have to be validated, and mods will filter what comes in.

- Then, I would post a news on the sites to let everyone know about this change, and allow them some time to move their "wrong" characters and art there.

- After that while, mods will be allowed to filter and delete any art/character that doesn't fit a site.
"


What classifies as not related?

Sparkle dogs

unrealistic designs

wings

legwarmers

pircings

scarfs

Anything that can be described as scene dog/emo dog, etc. If it can't happen in the movie of concern, then chances are you shouldn't send it.

Also, this doesn't mean you can't be creative, so don't go there. You can be just as creative with a realistic dog that is related to the movie of concern.

What is allowed?

Realistic colors and markings

Collars (if the animal of concern can wear one)

Relation to Balto. And not just: He lives in nome, or he knows Balto. Try and be more complex and devolop the character.

Your own version of one of Balto's un-named pups, or a character that was seen but has no name.

Human characters, but keep in a style that is from that time period.


If you're interested in helping in restoring this site, then  this is how you can help: Go through your galleries and delete anything that shouldn't be there. Go through your characters and clean them out. Send in content related to the site. The last thing you can do is use this banner here in your profile. But ONLY if Hecate says you can, she's very picky on who uses it.

So that will be all for now. Have a nice day!




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May 13, 2012
Germany Female
Find me on DA or FA (Links in profile)
Exactly characters should fit into the source´s universe, by style (So no neon green wolves with pink dots on BS for example) and by relation. So any reasonable relation like Brown Wolf already mentioned. And not something like "has seen *insert official character here* walking by"

May 13, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Minifashion -- So are you for this or against this? In reality, its what all the Sources need. No one is talking about an image that requires an official Balto character or official character from the other Sources. This whole matter is in regards to non related characters and sparkle characters I think, and how they simply have no place on this chain of fan sites. And it would be... simpler if a fan character had a legit connection to an official character of any of the Sources whether they're kin - children or parent - or even a close friend to fill in the gaps we don't see in the films.

The term Fan has been lost, and it's time to restore it.

May 13, 2012
Canada
Jordan said all. It's pointless, I agree. Now we are obligated to do an image with an official Balto character?! O.o what about our requests and our projects? We have things to do! You finished your request, but before posting it, you have to do a Balto image. And if you really dont have the time? Its more fun when you are not obligated to do it. And people will tag Balto characters in their images, when they are not even in there. So yeah... really pointless -.-

May 13, 2012
Global Moderator Usa Female
Well said Jordan, well said. I'm glad that my some of my characters on The Lion King Source are connected to an official characters. The others are connected to the fan character that is connected to an official. Whoa, did that make any sense.

And as far as the mods are concerned - since I'm one of them - we need reliable, rock-solid, even though yes, mods - me included - do have lives outside of the Internet. We do the best we can, I just wanna say.

May 13, 2012
Germany Female
Find me on DA or FA (Links in profile)
That will depend on the set of mods. Wrong choices results in bad mod which will end up in drama.
But I´d rather have more moderators on here than a "do whatever you want" source. It´s rather pointless to me.
And people don´t need like houndreds of characters. Okay, I have about 30 but one is my fursona (Note, fursonas should be an exception from the "must be Balto related" rule, but to avoid cheating only one fursona declared character per member.) and there is a pack I made to be a rival pack of Nava/Aleu´s and therefore being Balto related (an ongoing fight for the territory and prey is a relation, right?) other characters are siblings or other relatives of official characters or if it´s streched they are close friends/team-mates of Balto characters. So I think when said actions will be taken my characters won´t be affected. (Or at least I hope so)
So my suggestion for a OC is that it shouldn´t be just "living in Nome" or (censored) like that It should have a connection to at least one official character.

May 13, 2012
Uk
Agreeing with Eska^^. ;)

May 13, 2012
Global Moderator Usa
Nananana-Batman!
More mods may be the solution to that one. Whether or not that can be done without opening up another whole can of uglydrama... remains to be seen.

May 13, 2012
Site Builder (Content), Site Builder (Gr... Australia
DID SOMEONE SAY DRACO MALFOY
geting characters acctivated sounds like a good and bad idea

it would stop the poorley made ones but what about the sourses the mods over look? we would have to suffer waiting ages for are stuff to be acctivated and thats allready realy bad

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
I'm all for the character site ;D

May 13, 2012
Uk
Nice solution. I like it. Having a new site for unrelated posts is good for the benefit of everyone. Because if people want to post some unrelated stuff, go to the new site to post it. If they then want to post some Balto RELATED stuff, post it on here. Simple as. Switch from both sites to do unrelated stuff and related stuff. I'm going to clean my gallery out when this idea is officially on. Because I'm pretty fond of some of my stuff. Better start saving things on my computer. I also agree with JTW-MSS-NS-WRJ, it would be pretty hard to completely rewrite character bios.

Anyway, I'm all for this site! Apart from some stuff such as recreating stuff. Go old animation Source and new character hub! :grincolonp:

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
Who knocks at the garden gate?
I'm in the process of saving all my un-related drawings on my computer so I can delete them from my gallery. This site is on its way to recovery...:P I'm so happy!!

May 13, 2012
Germany Female
Find me on DA or FA (Links in profile)
I second what Eska said. Characters should be checked before appearing on-site. So only suitable characters will be exsisting and therefore no unrelated material will be posted. Yes, that means more work for the moderators but well, maybe steet could choose some "character-only" mods to do that job and if one doesn´t do their task correctly then it´s time to hire someone else.

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
Water Tribe
Sounds like a plan to me. I've already cleaned out all my galleries a while ago and have made an "oath" of sorts to send only Source-related content from here on out. Thanks for posting this; it'll really help spread the idea! :)

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
Path of the Demon
The only characters that will be on the character hub will be the ones that have NOTHING to do with the movies here. Balto related characters, or whatever site you're from, is fine on AS.

And how they will be moved, if this falls through, I don't know. Seems there would be a way to move the character to that site as a drop down menu or something.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
FFFF

** fanart

Dumb auto-correct! xDD

May 13, 2012
Global Moderator Usa
Nananana-Batman!
I would say I'm pro having your characters activated. Sounds like a great solution.
Having a separate site for all characters would be awful. I'm hoping you're not all bitter enough over there to actually do that.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
Honestly, I'm pretty mutual to this idea. It sounds fine to me, but for now I'll leave my characters until the plan might actually go through. I'm too lazy to re-write all of those bios. And while I have a mixture, some actually being Balto related, the others not, the idea seems fine to me.

But question, when (or if) this happens, will ALL of the characters from ALL of the sources be moved there? That seems awfully overwhelming! @_@

But anyways. I'm a real, true Balto fan, and if this is how things are gonna roll from here on out, I'll adapt quickly and make more fanatic strictly for the movie(s) themselves! c:

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
Woopywulf- I also remember those times when characters had to be activated first, good times... But you've got to remember that some members were annoyed at having to wait for their characters to be activated.

Plus, I think we should have Fanart and Fanimages mods eg, again.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
i agree mighty most of the non related Balto and not to menton Sparkle characters some of them need to go there are 20 pages of non related balto characters and 11 pages of sparkly dogs there is only 11 non related balto characters in my group the rest are related. i only use 9 out of the 11 of non related balto characters and i do plan to do away with the last 2.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
I'm not gonna delete any of my characters just in case because if the character hub becomes a true character site i wouldnt want to delete anything so it could just be moved there since i don't really wanna rewrite bio's over again.

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
@Rainbowkat I'd be more then happy to help in anyway possible^^, and I'm sure people would be willing to wait a few days for their character to be put up. Back when I first joined, the characters here had to go through validation(how I wish for that back). I had to wait over a week to get my characters up, and I didn't mind at all.

(please, forgive me for saying this) Personally I think we're just being lazy around here and don't want to be doing all that work.

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
Born To Make History
I Don't really agree with having to clean out out characters & fanart......I mean, we all work really hard on them, & besides, If this was a fan site, & you wouldn't want us to make charcters & images based on characters, Why do you let us send them? Not trying to be rude, so sorry if I sound like I am....

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
AppleDash>You
I get where you're coming from, but I would be devistated if I had to clean out my characters and galleries. Just saying, this is a "fan" site, so you should probably be a real "fan" of something to be on here. But if stuff should be real, movie related, then why is there such thing as fan "fiction" and "fan" characters? People don't seem to be complaining about this problem, so I say, why change it? Now I'm not saying that some minor changes shouldn't be made, I'm just saying that I'm not sure if I'm really up for deleting some of my images and characters.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
Woopywulf- But just think about all the characters that will be uploaded there. All the un-related ones will have to be moved along with the new ones people will make. I think there will be too many for the mods, unless some new mods will be put up.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
I agree with woopy aswell.

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
Woopywulf, agreed to that -.-

May 13, 2012
Usa Female
A week or two ago I was thinking about cleaning out my gallery also. I just never really have gotten around to it yet. I was actually going to do that today while I did my yearly character updates. (Then you posted this and now have re-sparked my motivation, I'm a very lazy individual XD)

But may I make a suggestion for the new "Character Source" Please, if possible, assign some people to go through the characters and validate them before being posted. Nothing gets to me more than a character with a one line bio and a few likes and dislikes. It drives me up the wall :\


Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
what!!

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
I'm so glad this change will be made. Finally, the content sent into the sources will all be related to the film! Thank you.

Guest
Guest
May 13, 2012
I'm all for this remove the trash thats what i say.

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