Written by steet :
I will address here two of the main problems occuring with moderation on the site recently. I thought this was important enough to display this publicly.
First, the characters rules. As I said in a MASS PM sent to all the moderators, the only valid character rules are the ones written on the site (how are members supposed to know rules that are not visible to them?)
Now, I will request you to be more lenient when it comes to the rules. Everyone has different feelings on what SHOULD be allowed or not, so stick to what is CLEARLY written.
So yes, "Sparkle Dogs" should be allowed, because A LOT of people do like them. Cats characters on Balto Source should be allowed too, because A LOT of people can like seeing something more varied, a character that's not just another wolf or dog. (unless someone is not in good faith and is posting ONLY cats characters...) We can't just go and make a list of EVERY species that are allowed or not, on EVERY site.
In the long term, there will be categories, which will allow pretty much everything to be accepted, but put into different categories. So that each visitors can then filter the categories he/she doesn't want to see. (like sparkledogs or different species, for example) Because, after all, what is the REAL problem behind sparkledogs for example? It is that you DONT want to see them PERSONALLY. And again, each person has different views on what they want to see or not.
In the meantime, I'm asking the mods to be too restrictive on what is accepted.
As for JerseyCaptain issues with Togo : I have to admit all this gives me a headache. I did not answer on this yet because I wanted to take the time to read everything properly.
Yes, I'm still planning to add a better moderation system, with automated warnings etc...Until then, mods should either use the external forums, or the mods forums on each site to keep tracks of them.
JC's someone with very strong opinions, who sticks to them and always want to have the final word. And by doing so, he just irritates anyone who "dare" answer to his messages. JC, honestly, when you see that you're annoying most people, can't you just *drop it* and move to something else? It's also valid to the others. When you see a topic's going nowhere, wouldn't it to better to stop?
Come on people, you're supposed to have fun here! Not give headhaches to the others!!!
So here's what I think : yes, from what I read, JC's attitude deserved a ban. He can be very resourceful and posts very interesting articles, but when it comes to the forums, he just doesn't know when to END an argument. To his defense, I don't think he does that on "purpose" : he just doesn't realize how much his messages can get irritating.
My suggestion : now that it's clear to everyone, I will give him a last chance. Please do the necessary to remove all the warnings and the ban from him. But, at the very instant he gets into a new argument in a topic, this warrants a warning, and 3 warnings a ban. And if that happens, the ban should be on the forums only - not the site.
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You've lost an one more member dude.
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Maybe SOME members of BS could do with this http://imagemacros.files.wordp [...] 09/09/butthurt_report_form.jpg
Is THIS more important than all the things I have posted in the past? If yes, I'm REALLY worried about the reasons people come here.
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You guys really said some very nice things, and I am grateful!
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Steet, do answer me this. Are we going to have a 'Banned Member of the Week' news broadcast? Does JC's so-called 'flaming' bother you so much that you just have to make it public knowledge that he is having issues with Togo? I mean, when a member has another issue with a member, it's dusted under the carpet with a warning and possible ban but when a member/moderator has a problem with an ADMISTRATOR, then public bashing is in order, isn't it? There is NOTHING in this broadcast you could not have put in a private message. Yes, you are the admin and owner of this site and I suppose you can do this: it doesn't mean I have to agree with it, but I guess that would get me a ban and a public broadcast on it, doesn't it?
For this people calling Jersey a 'flamer': LOOK AT HIS COMMENT TO THIS. He is calm and composed and is not calling Steet every name under the sun, which is what I would be doing if it were me. God, I dread to think what would happen if you came across REAL flamers on the Internet: I bet you'd be emotionally scarred.
Balto Source is what introduced me to social networking when I was 12. Now I'm 18 and can see that it's fallen in ruin. With all the 'let's make about 3 new sites per month' and now having to display banned members, I might as well go with a ban. I did tell Jersey that this site is NOT WORTH his talent and his wide knowledge but... Guess what? He wishes to share his knowledge with you and wishes to help Balto Source despite these stupid grudges against him and people branding him a 'troll'. Once again, I suggest you look up on REAL trolls before you start calling someone who is more intelligent than you one. Yes, Jersey may get a little ahead of himself but don't we all? He has strictly kept any problems he has had to PMs but, alas, this site has to do a Jonestown and point out the people who seem to have 'strayed away' in some way or another.
I've talked to Jersey for nearly a year (both on this site and off) and I've NEVER seen the 'flaming troll' side you claim he has. Wow, one member acts like a massive wimp over a subject they don't agree with and Jersey defends himself against being called a 'bigot' and he gets a ban? You know what: you members may scream 'blasphemy’ and ‘flamer’ but Steet's voiced his opinion and I am voicing mine against him, you all may want to differentiate between 'flames' and 'opinions'. Ban me; go ahead because I am done with this site. I salute Jersey for putting up with this crap.
Oh and don't bash Jersey for this. I am an adult and I did this on my own accord because I am his friend and I know Jersey is not the worst person in the world just because he does not have the full light of favour like Togo has. As a matter of fact, he is a very kind and caring person. Nice way to shoot yourselves in the foot.
Be warned, members of AS: it could very well be one of you next and then you'll see that Jersey was unfairly treated here.
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Keep the Baltosource about Balto and the story of Balto, anything that detracts from it, which these sparkle dogs do is a mistake. If these things need a home the DA is more than willing to post these monstrosities, keep them off the site since they have nothing to do with Balto. Encourage the development of these kids artistic skills to produce wonderful art like Deni's or Cat's instead of these rather moronic things. Just because alot of people like them does not mean that this view is held by everyone and as I far as I am aware those who enjoy looking at these things are in the minority.
Note: (If this offends anyone, I am sorry but too bad. I was never taught to sugar coat things, I prefer to tell it like it is.)
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Why?
Because: People on here who WANT sparkledogs and LIKE them finally get to re post them back on the site. They don't get harassed on by members and Mods that they have a 'sparkledog'.
For people who don't like sparkledogs, they don't have to see them. Like Steet said, there is going to be categories, and when you pick a category, it allows you not to see the other stuff.
I mean, come on, its right up there.
I love this idea. Everyones happy now..Hopefully.
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There's my opinion, no flame or harm intended. And I expect none in return.
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I think sparkle dogs, meaning dogs with unusual collars/necklaces/earrings etc., should be characters on this site. But the rainbowy dog with a unicorn horn that flies over a cloud fortress (first thing I thought of)...isn't that going too far? Remember BALTO Source. Just my opinion.
But you can tell steet is doing his best and trying to make everyone happy. He wants a fan site for people to see what they want to see, and that's exactly what he's doing right now. Steet is a person, like all of us. And he's allowed to make mistakes. (and I'm NOT saying whether he's making a mistake or not, because that is his job to decide that) Thank you to those who read this.
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